Greek letters

[Ob3lus]

When I write some text containing greek letters on PC and transfer it to
HP 50g instead of greek letters calculator displays some gibberish.
Which encoding/font would make those greek letters display correctly?
How do I make those letters play nicely, what do I have to adjust on my PC?

[Joe Horn]

Post by Ob3lus
When I write some text containing greek letters on PC and transfer it to
HP 50g instead of greek letters calculator displays some gibberish.
Which encoding/font would make those greek letters display correctly?
How do I make those letters play nicely, what do I have to adjust on my PC?

There are a few 50g fonts available at hpcalc.org which contain the entire Greek alphabet: http://www.hpcalc.org/search.php?query=greek

Please notice, however, that the mapping between your computer and these 50g fonts is NOT automatic. You'll have to do that yourself, by either reading the font's included documentation (if any), or installing the font on your 50g and then pressing right-shift CHARS and studying the character map to see where each Greek letter is.

-Joe-

[d***@gmail.com]

Post by Ob3lus
When I write some text containing greek letters on PC and transfer it to
HP 50g instead of greek letters calculator displays some gibberish.
Which encoding/font would make those greek letters display correctly?
How do I make those letters play nicely, what do I have to adjust on my PC?

Use the hp connectivity kit, and then set up the "translation mode" which will replace every special character with a sequence of normal chars.

[Ob3lus]

But even the default font of HP 50g supports (entire) Greek alphabet, so
why would I need another font? Its just that it doesn't recognize Greek
letters typed on PC. Why?

So how do I "make" Greek letters on my windows PC which will be
recognized and displayed correctly on the calc?

Post by d***@gmail.com

Post by Ob3lus
When I write some text containing greek letters on PC and transfer it to
HP 50g instead of greek letters calculator displays some gibberish.
Which encoding/font would make those greek letters display correctly?
How do I make those letters play nicely, what do I have to adjust on my PC?

Use the hp connectivity kit, and then set up the "translation mode" which will replace every special character with a sequence of normal chars.

I still prefer to use sd card method, hence this workaround is not
really convenient.

[BartdB]

Post by Ob3lus
But even the default font of HP 50g supports (entire) Greek alphabet, so
why would I need another font? Its just that it doesn't recognize Greek
letters typed on PC. Why?
So how do I "make" Greek letters on my windows PC which will be
recognized and displayed correctly on the calc?

Post by d***@gmail.com

Post by Ob3lus
When I write some text containing greek letters on PC and transfer it to
HP 50g instead of greek letters calculator displays some gibberish.
Which encoding/font would make those greek letters display correctly?
How do I make those letters play nicely, what do I have to adjust on my PC?

Use the hp connectivity kit, and then set up the "translation mode" which will replace every special character with a sequence of normal chars.

I still prefer to use sd card method, hence this workaround is not
really convenient.

Have you tried with HPUserEdit?
http://www.hpcalc.org/details.php?id=6600

[d***@gmail.com]

Post by Ob3lus
But even the default font of HP 50g supports (entire) Greek alphabet, so
why would I need another font? Its just that it doesn't recognize Greek
letters typed on PC. Why?
So how do I "make" Greek letters on my windows PC which will be
recognized and displayed correctly on the calc?

Post by d***@gmail.com

Post by Ob3lus
When I write some text containing greek letters on PC and transfer it to
HP 50g instead of greek letters calculator displays some gibberish.
Which encoding/font would make those greek letters display correctly?
How do I make those letters play nicely, what do I have to adjust on my PC?

Use the hp connectivity kit, and then set up the "translation mode" which will replace every special character with a sequence of normal chars.

I still prefer to use sd card method, hence this workaround is not
really convenient.

This is fairly simple. Normal (ASCII) Characters are normed and the same binary representation resembles the same ascii character more or less anywhere in the world. Greek letters (as well as special chars or german umlauts (öäü) or french accented letters and such are not normed, so every device is able to use its own binary representation. Your HP48 uses another coding for greek letters than your pc.

using the translation mode of the transfer software and the hp48g allows you to convert all characters in ascii chars. this also works for special chars like the delimiters of a program (<< and >>) and others. Use The highes translation mode you can, and set it on the pc side as well as on the hp48 to the same number.

[Ob3lus]

Which binary representation/coding HP 50g uses? And is it possible to
use that coding directly on PC without having to use translation? Which
PC program would I have to use?

[d***@gmail.com]

Post by Ob3lus
Which binary representation/coding HP 50g uses? And is it possible to
use that coding directly on PC without having to use translation? Which
PC program would I have to use?

it uses its own binary representation. use the translation options while transferring the files or write your own editor.

[N. Jackson]

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Post by Ob3lus
Which binary representation/coding HP 50g uses?

Appendix J of the AUR [1] (p. 676) provides a chart of the calculator
character set (including Greek letters).

You can check that this table is current using the operations in the
CHARS menu of the calculator (see Reference [2] p. 23-2).

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Post by Ob3lus
And is it possible to use that coding directly on PC without having
to use translation? Which PC program would I have to use?

it uses its own binary representation. use the translation options
while transferring the files or write your own editor.

Less work than writing your own editor would be to use an editor that
can be customised/extended such as GNU Emacs.

[1] Hewlett-Packard, HP 50g / 49g+ / 48gii Graphing Calculator Advanced
User's Reference Manual, 2nd ed., July 2009. HP part number F2228-90010.
http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c02836298.pdf.

[2] Hewlett-Packard, HP 50g Graphing Calculator User's Guide, April
2006. HP part number F2229AA-90006.
http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c00748646.pdf.