Discussion:
Replacement for Casio FX-451
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m***@privacy.net
2004-06-07 02:24:08 UTC
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Hello, all,

I know this is primarily an HP group, but when I did a Google search, I
noticed a number of posts re: Casio. Thus, the following plea for help.

Alas, my trusty little solar powered Casio FX-451 calculator has bitten
the dust. It served me well for a bit more than 15 years, while working
on mainframe computers in octal and binary, and finally into PC's in
hex. And, all for the paltry price of some $20 in Hong Kong! On top of
that, it worked in fractions, did many trig functions, had statistics
capabilities, AND did conversions from/to metric. If you've never seen
one of these antiques, it was a two sided, folding cover piece with a
soft vinyl jacket; had the basic keypad, display and solar cell on the
left, and scientific control keys on the right. It was a bit taller
than a 100 mm cigarette pack.

I've looked at Casio's 260 solar model, but it doesn't appear to have
any binary/octal/hex capabilities, and THAT is crucial for me.

Would anyone have a suggestion as to what brand and model I should
consider? I have no brand preference--just one that will do what I
need. The trig and other scientific capabilities aren't necessary, nor
is the conversion capability, but it would be nice!

Many thanks for your help.

Lakeside
Toby
2004-06-07 02:31:36 UTC
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Casio FX-115MS should sufice, and it's quite cheap (<$20). I don't know
about metric conversions.

Toby
Post by m***@privacy.net
Hello, all,
I know this is primarily an HP group, but when I did a Google search, I
noticed a number of posts re: Casio. Thus, the following plea for help.
Alas, my trusty little solar powered Casio FX-451 calculator has bitten
the dust. It served me well for a bit more than 15 years, while working
on mainframe computers in octal and binary, and finally into PC's in
hex. And, all for the paltry price of some $20 in Hong Kong! On top of
that, it worked in fractions, did many trig functions, had statistics
capabilities, AND did conversions from/to metric. If you've never seen
one of these antiques, it was a two sided, folding cover piece with a
soft vinyl jacket; had the basic keypad, display and solar cell on the
left, and scientific control keys on the right. It was a bit taller
than a 100 mm cigarette pack.
I've looked at Casio's 260 solar model, but it doesn't appear to have
any binary/octal/hex capabilities, and THAT is crucial for me.
Would anyone have a suggestion as to what brand and model I should
consider? I have no brand preference--just one that will do what I
need. The trig and other scientific capabilities aren't necessary, nor
is the conversion capability, but it would be nice!
Many thanks for your help.
Lakeside
Veli-Pekka Nousiainen
2004-06-07 05:39:28 UTC
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Post by m***@privacy.net
Hello, all,
I know this is primarily an HP group, but when I did a Google search, I
noticed a number of posts re: Casio. Thus, the following plea for help.
X
Post by m***@privacy.net
I've looked at Casio's 260 solar model, but it doesn't appear to have
any binary/octal/hex capabilities, and THAT is crucial for me.
Would anyone have a suggestion as to what brand and model I should
consider? I have no brand preference--just one that will do what I
need. The trig and other scientific capabilities aren't necessary, nor
is the conversion capability, but it would be nice!
Buy the new hp 33s!!
It has both Algenbraic and RPN entry
It has all the conversions
It has BIN, OCT, DEC, HEX
It has fractions
It is programmable
...
'VPN'
m***@privacy.net
2004-06-07 06:50:37 UTC
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Post by m***@privacy.net
Hello, all,
I know this is primarily an HP group, but when I did a Google search, I
noticed a number of posts re: Casio. Thus, the following plea for help.
Alas, my trusty little solar powered Casio FX-451 calculator has bitten
the dust. It served me well for a bit more than 15 years, while working
on mainframe computers in octal and binary, and finally into PC's in
hex. And, all for the paltry price of some $20 in Hong Kong! On top of
that, it worked in fractions, did many trig functions, had statistics
capabilities, AND did conversions from/to metric. If you've never seen
one of these antiques, it was a two sided, folding cover piece with a
soft vinyl jacket; had the basic keypad, display and solar cell on the
left, and scientific control keys on the right. It was a bit taller
than a 100 mm cigarette pack.
I've looked at Casio's 260 solar model, but it doesn't appear to have
any binary/octal/hex capabilities, and THAT is crucial for me.
Would anyone have a suggestion as to what brand and model I should
consider? I have no brand preference--just one that will do what I
need. The trig and other scientific capabilities aren't necessary, nor
is the conversion capability, but it would be nice!
Many thanks for your help.
Lakeside
Many thanks to you both, Toby and Veli-Pekka. I'll certainly check out
those models!

Best regards,

Lakeside
Richard Kanarek
2004-06-07 10:00:28 UTC
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Greetings.

I shall try to be terse, as being a Casio shill isn't a career I
desire. <g>

As I mentioned in response to a calculator question on
alt.engineering.electrical, the Casio FX-570MS (battery powered) &
FX-991MS (identical, but battery/solar powered) are probably the most
"powerful" non-programmable, non-graphing, test-friendly* calculators
available. The calculators can do every thing you mentioned, as well
as quite a bit more (numeric integration & differentiation, matrices,
vectors, solve 2 & 3 degree/variable equations, etc...).

You can view the calculators at:
http://www.casio.co.jp/edu_e/product/eu/
And the manuals at: (BOTH manuals are for BOTH calculators)
http://ftp.casio.co.jp/pub/world_manual/edu/en/fx115MS_991MS_E.pdf
http://ftp.casio.co.jp/pub/world_manual/edu/en/fx570MS_991MS_E.pdf

Neither calculator is available in the US. The '991MS is available in
Canada, but I've never managed to locate an online seller in Canada.
The '570MS is available in the UK. By using *UNINSURED* (!!!) "Royal
Mail" for shipping, I was able to get my '570MS swiftly and cheaply
from Science Studios Limited (http://www.sciencestudio.co.uk/).

Be warned that the calculators do not physically resemble your old
calculator; they look just like current Casio calculators (all the
buttons on the calculator body, with a slide-on hard cover).

My original reason for searching out the 570MS/991MS was to find the
most powerful test-friendly calculators available (not that it has
done me much good on my tests <g>). If you do not plan to use your
calculator on tests, you may wish to consider Casio's even more
powerful programmable, non-graphing calculators (or their spiffy
graphing calculators). I don't know of an on-line distributor anywhere
in the world that sells Casio non-graphing, programmable calculators.
Casio's graphical calculators, although costing between 2 to 6 times
as much as the cheap 570MS/991MS, are readily available in the USA.

Happy shopping!

Cordially,
Richard Kanarek

*The 570MS/991MS are not test friendly in the UK: they are not
permitted on university exams.
Post by m***@privacy.net
Hello, all,
I know this is primarily an HP group, but when I did a Google search, I
noticed a number of posts re: Casio. Thus, the following plea for help.
Alas, my trusty little solar powered Casio FX-451 calculator has bitten
the dust. It served me well for a bit more than 15 years, while working
on mainframe computers in octal and binary, and finally into PC's in
hex. And, all for the paltry price of some $20 in Hong Kong! On top of
that, it worked in fractions, did many trig functions, had statistics
capabilities, AND did conversions from/to metric. If you've never seen
one of these antiques, it was a two sided, folding cover piece with a
soft vinyl jacket; had the basic keypad, display and solar cell on the
left, and scientific control keys on the right. It was a bit taller
than a 100 mm cigarette pack.
I've looked at Casio's 260 solar model, but it doesn't appear to have
any binary/octal/hex capabilities, and THAT is crucial for me.
Would anyone have a suggestion as to what brand and model I should
consider? I have no brand preference--just one that will do what I
need. The trig and other scientific capabilities aren't necessary, nor
is the conversion capability, but it would be nice!
Many thanks for your help.
Lakeside
m***@privacy.net
2004-06-07 18:29:56 UTC
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Post by Richard Kanarek
Greetings.
I shall try to be terse, as being a Casio shill isn't a career I
desire. <g>
As I mentioned in response to a calculator question on
alt.engineering.electrical, the Casio FX-570MS (battery powered) &
FX-991MS (identical, but battery/solar powered) are probably the most
"powerful" non-programmable, non-graphing, test-friendly* calculators
available. The calculators can do every thing you mentioned, as well
as quite a bit more (numeric integration & differentiation, matrices,
vectors, solve 2 & 3 degree/variable equations, etc...).
http://www.casio.co.jp/edu_e/product/eu/
And the manuals at: (BOTH manuals are for BOTH calculators)
http://ftp.casio.co.jp/pub/world_manual/edu/en/fx115MS_991MS_E.pdf
http://ftp.casio.co.jp/pub/world_manual/edu/en/fx570MS_991MS_E.pdf
Neither calculator is available in the US. The '991MS is available in
Canada, but I've never managed to locate an online seller in Canada.
The '570MS is available in the UK. By using *UNINSURED* (!!!) "Royal
Mail" for shipping, I was able to get my '570MS swiftly and cheaply
from Science Studios Limited (http://www.sciencestudio.co.uk/).
Be warned that the calculators do not physically resemble your old
calculator; they look just like current Casio calculators (all the
buttons on the calculator body, with a slide-on hard cover).
My original reason for searching out the 570MS/991MS was to find the
most powerful test-friendly calculators available (not that it has
done me much good on my tests <g>). If you do not plan to use your
calculator on tests, you may wish to consider Casio's even more
powerful programmable, non-graphing calculators (or their spiffy
graphing calculators). I don't know of an on-line distributor anywhere
in the world that sells Casio non-graphing, programmable calculators.
Casio's graphical calculators, although costing between 2 to 6 times
as much as the cheap 570MS/991MS, are readily available in the USA.
Happy shopping!
Cordially,
Richard Kanarek
*The 570MS/991MS are not test friendly in the UK: they are not
permitted on university exams.
Post by m***@privacy.net
Hello, all,
I know this is primarily an HP group, but when I did a Google search, I
noticed a number of posts re: Casio. Thus, the following plea for help.
Alas, my trusty little solar powered Casio FX-451 calculator has bitten
the dust. It served me well for a bit more than 15 years, while working
on mainframe computers in octal and binary, and finally into PC's in
hex. And, all for the paltry price of some $20 in Hong Kong! On top of
that, it worked in fractions, did many trig functions, had statistics
capabilities, AND did conversions from/to metric. If you've never seen
one of these antiques, it was a two sided, folding cover piece with a
soft vinyl jacket; had the basic keypad, display and solar cell on the
left, and scientific control keys on the right. It was a bit taller
than a 100 mm cigarette pack.
I've looked at Casio's 260 solar model, but it doesn't appear to have
any binary/octal/hex capabilities, and THAT is crucial for me.
Would anyone have a suggestion as to what brand and model I should
consider? I have no brand preference--just one that will do what I
need. The trig and other scientific capabilities aren't necessary, nor
is the conversion capability, but it would be nice!
Many thanks for your help.
Lakeside
Richard,

Thanks for the information, and links. I tracked down the FX-115MS, and
it is readily available in the US. So, may go that route rather than
try importing from either Canada or the UK.

Best regards,

Lakeside
Toby
2004-06-08 00:04:11 UTC
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Go to your local Kmart, Walmart or whatever-mart: it's that simple to get.

That FX-991MS looks fine... time to do a little googling.

Toby
Post by m***@privacy.net
Post by Richard Kanarek
Greetings.
I shall try to be terse, as being a Casio shill isn't a career I
desire. <g>
As I mentioned in response to a calculator question on
alt.engineering.electrical, the Casio FX-570MS (battery powered) &
FX-991MS (identical, but battery/solar powered) are probably the most
"powerful" non-programmable, non-graphing, test-friendly* calculators
available. The calculators can do every thing you mentioned, as well
as quite a bit more (numeric integration & differentiation, matrices,
vectors, solve 2 & 3 degree/variable equations, etc...).
http://www.casio.co.jp/edu_e/product/eu/
And the manuals at: (BOTH manuals are for BOTH calculators)
http://ftp.casio.co.jp/pub/world_manual/edu/en/fx115MS_991MS_E.pdf
http://ftp.casio.co.jp/pub/world_manual/edu/en/fx570MS_991MS_E.pdf
Neither calculator is available in the US. The '991MS is available in
Canada, but I've never managed to locate an online seller in Canada.
The '570MS is available in the UK. By using *UNINSURED* (!!!) "Royal
Mail" for shipping, I was able to get my '570MS swiftly and cheaply
from Science Studios Limited (http://www.sciencestudio.co.uk/).
Be warned that the calculators do not physically resemble your old
calculator; they look just like current Casio calculators (all the
buttons on the calculator body, with a slide-on hard cover).
My original reason for searching out the 570MS/991MS was to find the
most powerful test-friendly calculators available (not that it has
done me much good on my tests <g>). If you do not plan to use your
calculator on tests, you may wish to consider Casio's even more
powerful programmable, non-graphing calculators (or their spiffy
graphing calculators). I don't know of an on-line distributor anywhere
in the world that sells Casio non-graphing, programmable calculators.
Casio's graphical calculators, although costing between 2 to 6 times
as much as the cheap 570MS/991MS, are readily available in the USA.
Happy shopping!
Cordially,
Richard Kanarek
*The 570MS/991MS are not test friendly in the UK: they are not
permitted on university exams.
Post by m***@privacy.net
Hello, all,
I know this is primarily an HP group, but when I did a Google search, I
noticed a number of posts re: Casio. Thus, the following plea for help.
Alas, my trusty little solar powered Casio FX-451 calculator has bitten
the dust. It served me well for a bit more than 15 years, while working
on mainframe computers in octal and binary, and finally into PC's in
hex. And, all for the paltry price of some $20 in Hong Kong! On top of
that, it worked in fractions, did many trig functions, had statistics
capabilities, AND did conversions from/to metric. If you've never seen
one of these antiques, it was a two sided, folding cover piece with a
soft vinyl jacket; had the basic keypad, display and solar cell on the
left, and scientific control keys on the right. It was a bit taller
than a 100 mm cigarette pack.
I've looked at Casio's 260 solar model, but it doesn't appear to have
any binary/octal/hex capabilities, and THAT is crucial for me.
Would anyone have a suggestion as to what brand and model I should
consider? I have no brand preference--just one that will do what I
need. The trig and other scientific capabilities aren't necessary, nor
is the conversion capability, but it would be nice!
Many thanks for your help.
Lakeside
Richard,
Thanks for the information, and links. I tracked down the FX-115MS, and
it is readily available in the US. So, may go that route rather than
try importing from either Canada or the UK.
Best regards,
Lakeside
William R. Platt
2004-06-08 13:39:54 UTC
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http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00004TVDO/102-7213531-8891349
?v=glance


On sale for $15. I have bought from Amazon; they are pretty fast.


Regards,

Bill
m***@privacy.net
2004-06-09 03:42:31 UTC
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Post by William R. Platt
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00004TVDO/102-7213531-8891349
?v=glance
On sale for $15. I have bought from Amazon; they are pretty fast.
Regards,
Bill
Bill,

I did the same thing! Picking mine up from not-so-local Office Depot
this week!

Lakeside
f***@gmail.com
2018-10-02 07:50:43 UTC
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Does anyone know where to get the manual for fx-451 CASIO scientific calculator?
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