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HP 16c on 50g?
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greenchile505
2011-05-12 18:01:20 UTC
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I loaded Håkan Thörngren's HP 16c simulator (library) on Droid48 and
found it to be quite nice and most useful. I tried installing it on my
50g to no avail. It may not be possible to run this at all on the 50g.
Any advice?


http://www.hpcalc.org/details.php?id=317

Thanks.
MACH
2011-05-12 19:09:00 UTC
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Post by greenchile505
I loaded Håkan Thörngren's HP 16c simulator (library) on Droid48 and
found it to be quite nice and most useful. I tried installing it on my
50g to no avail. It may not be possible to run this at all on the 50g.
Any advice?
http://www.hpcalc.org/details.php?id=317
Thanks.
Hi!, greenchile:

Try, with ... http://www.hpcalc.org/details.php?id=2960

The simulator inserted in ... http://www.hpcalc.org/details.php?id=317,
is only for, HP48 series.

Best Regards.
MACH.
John H Meyers
2011-05-12 20:53:09 UTC
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The HP48 library, HP49/50 library, and a commercially sold HP16C emulator for HP48
may all be quite different, with different degrees of completeness of the simulation.

The HP16C was what was once called a "programmer's" calculator:

http://www.hpmuseum.org/hp16.htm
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Texas Instruments, IIRC, may have been first, with this early product:
http://www.datamath.org/Sci/MAJESTIC/Programmer.htm
http://www.christophlorenz.de/calc/ti/programmer.php

The "wire crossbar" keyboards in that era's TI calculators
simply stink, IME -- you may need to rent an elephant to trample on them
for a while, after they have oxidized over any idle period.

There was also a subsequent, much nicer looking TI LCD version
http://www.datamath.org/Sci/Slanted/LCD-Programmer.htm
(the keyboard, however, may have remained the same)

There's nothing you can't do for yourself,
using built-in HP48/49/50 functions (or small programs),
but the specialized HP16C packaging and creative
"decimal floating point <-> binary floating point" conversion,
plus programmability, of course,
and special flags to detect "carry" and "overflow,"
all added much value and quickly surpassed any TI offering,
even though memory was limited and speed not dazzling.

Were it not for the awful keyboards, many of TI's LCD products
would have been very nice, and often very creative:
http://www.datamath.org/Sci/Slimline/Converter.htm

Note the "square" (area) and "cubic" (volume) shift keys on the top row,
as well as the artfully designed, human-friendly layout;
this was the best all-around "units converter" that I'd ever seen,
except for the still-lousy keyboard (has any other company
ever put out such creative but physically flawed stuff?)

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greenchile505
2011-05-12 22:13:08 UTC
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Post by John H Meyers
The HP48 library, HP49/50 library, and a commercially sold HP16C emulator for HP48
may all be quite different, with different degrees of completeness of the simulation.
Yes, that is why I prefer Håkan Thörngren's version specifically. I
tried the freeware version MACH mentioned, but it is missing a few
desired functions, such as RMD, DBLR, DBL/, and DBL*, and a few other
things. Conversely, Håkan's sim does not include 1's compliment mode
or floating point numbers, but as he mentions in his docs, 1's
compliment is rarely used, and the hp48 does floating point well.
Otherwise his is a tidy app, with easy to use menus, minor keyboard re-
mapping; X, Y, Z, T registers always in full view; persistant machine
state; etc..


Thank you.
Jennifer Usher
2011-05-13 04:51:30 UTC
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Post by greenchile505
I loaded Håkan Thörngren's HP 16c simulator (library) on Droid48 and
found it to be quite nice and most useful. I tried installing it on my
50g to no avail. It may not be possible to run this at all on the 50g.
Any advice?
http://www.hpcalc.org/details.php?id17
I don't know if it is available for Android, but there is a very good 16C
emulator that runs on the iPhone. My iPhone now emulates a 48GX, a
41CVX, and a 16C.
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Jennifer Usher
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